John,
I am very interested in getting some blood work done. I have been doing CrossFit since early 2005 and have been focused on Olympic Weightlifting for the last 2 years.
In that time I have seen my body go from 425 lbs (60%+BF) down to 215 lbs (11%BF) (Thanks to CrossFit) and then back up to 330 lbs (20%BF) (thanks to 24 hrs a week of weightlifting with Bob Takano) and I would be curious to see what’s going on inside my body.
My ultimate goal is to be a leaner (not shredded) healthier weight that isn’t too much for my frame 5’11”. Although weightlifting is my primary focus, I am beginning to see past my career and look on towards optimal health and wellness.
I know there are many different panels of blood work that can be done. Could you recommend a place to go and what panel to have done.
Also, could you help me figure out what the heck all the data means once I have it in my hands? You know…give a man a fish/Teach a man to fish?
Thanks,
Johnny
Johnny:
My name is Thomas Incledon, and I am Chief Executive Officer of Causenta Wellness in Scottsdale, AZ. I have worked with John Welbourn since 2002 and recently spoke on nutrition, supplementation and testing at a CrossFit Football seminar in Bloomington, IL.
He forwarded me your email, as blood testing is my wheelhouse. I have been involved in laboratory testing of athletes and non-athletes since 1989 and have a data base of over 30,000 subjects. I make the following suggestions and share with you that you can get these tests ordered by any physician and performed at a variety of labs. However in almost every case I have reviewed, people mess things up. Either the physician orders the wrong tests or skips tests that are important and/or the client/patient does something to mess up the results. So first let’s standardize things:
1. Do not work out two days before the tests, exercise can create artifacts that influence the lab results. See my study here for more info: Testosterone and cortisol in relationship to dietary nutrients and resistance exercise.
2. Do not drink alcohol two days before the tests; alcohol can affect hormone levels. See my study here for more info: Effect of acute post exercise ethanol intoxication on the neuroendocrine response to resistance exercise.
3. Do not eat anything unusual the night before, so eat common foods (like chicken, rice, broccoli) that you commonly consume because diet can affect hormone levels. See my study here for more info: Testosterone and cortisol in relationship to dietary nutrients and resistance exercise.
4. The morning of the blood draw/lab tests do not eat, workout or take supplements or medications, take them after the blood draw.
5. Schedule the test between 7-9 AM.
6. Ideally you want to know someone’s symptoms in order to recommend some tests. Assuming you have no clinical issues and just want to know what is going on so you can maximize your health and performance, the tests to have performed are listed below:
a. Cortisol, Total, LC/MS/MS
b. DHEA Uncon, LC/MS/MS
c. DHEA-S, LC/MS/MS
d. DHT, LC/MS/MS
e. Testosterone, Free LC/MS/MS
f. Testosterone, Total LC/MS/MS
g. SHBG
h. Estradiol, US, LC/MS/MS
i. Estrone, LC/MS/MS
j. Estrogen, Total
k. Growth Hormone
l. IGF-I, LC/MS
m. IGFBP3
n. CBC
o. CMP
p. Lipids
q. Vitamins
r. Minerals
s. Food allergy testing
7. If you want to make your life easier and do things right the first time, I suggest you just go to my company’s website at Causenta.com and sign up for our free newsletter and book a free consult.
Hope this helps and sheds some light on blood panels and how to proceed once you get the data.
Thank you,
Thomas Incledon
def reaching out to this guy. Knowledge BOMB
Wow! So cool! Im gonna get started on the process right away.
Thanks for the amazing information.
If there is an Australian equivalent of the above company, please post your details. I’m sick of fighting with whatever doc to get tests.
Not sure about how it works in your neck of the woods, but maybe, somebody with some knowledge about it reads this post and makes a suggestion.
constantly amazed by just what a great free resource TTMJ is
I was exctied to try this. Bloodwork that is, not from the company listed above, and was disappointed with the results. Not of my bloodwork, but the recommendations given. I am hesitiant to try it again, however I have learned to trust the information John gives. Maybe with this company I’ll get better feedback.
I think Tom makes a great point. “Most people mess it up. They either forget a test or do something wrong…” This could be speaking to you.
Hearing Dr. Tom talk was awesome! His knowledge of the human body is miles above anyone else I’ve ever been around. Can’t wait to turn my paperwork in and get started
Interesting post here. As a guy whose bloodwork has consistenty indicated anemia for the last 4 years (36/m/180), I have had my fair share of bloodwork done and have tests done every 6 months. I might need to start working in some listed above that I am not getting done.
I’m a little surprised to not see a test for liver function on the list above (unless I’m missing it) given my layman’s impression that “everything happens in the liver.” Maybe I am overfocsued on that aspect, however.
I started taking the HPS Performance Packs when John recommended them a couple months ago in a Supplement article. I know some say its just a multi vitamin, but I literally changed nothing else but the HPS packs replacing Animal Paks (yes, I feel like a noob…was trying to get swolle brah).
I feel incredible, got me hooked for life. Would love to save up some funds and work with Tom on some bloodwork in the near future.
Thanks, knowledge bombs once again from TTMJ.
Luke
@Tom R.
Item “o. CMP” is the Comprehensive Metabolic Panel which includes a comprehensive analysis of liver function (albumin, globulin, etc.). For a complete list of test markers see http://www.humanperformancespecialists.com/athlete-packages.
Thanks for the follow up, Dr. Tom. I’m certainly planning to check out your site more thoroughly.
@Dan,
got my medguy on this, will let you know which is the best place in Aus for something similar.
Thanks for the link John.
@Dan.
I am in Adelaide and had similar difficulty at first. Solved by finding a doctor who works in sports medicine – contacted a university with a sports medicine research cluster, asked them if any of their researchers also did GP work, and went and saw the guy. End result, saw someone who knew what I wanted, why I wanted it, and how to interpret the data. If you live somewhere with a university or two around, might be a solution.
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